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Audacious with Chion Wolf

Obey, serve, play: The power of being a submissive in the BDSM world

By Jessica Severin de Martinez,
Khaleel Rahman, Chion Wolf
Published February 23, 2023 at 12:32 PM EST
A photograph of Kim Debron's leather collar with "MJ's Girl" engraved on the tag. Next to it is a gold plate inscribed with "Property of MJ."
1 of 5  — Kim Debron's collar. She has been in a relationship with Master Joe for 18 years.
Kim Debron's collar. She has been in a relationship with Master Joe for 18 years.
Kim Debron
Kim Debron is a collared slave and writer living in rural Australia. She has been in a relationship with Master Joe for 18 years.
2 of 5  — Kim Debron is a collared slave and writer living in rural Australia. She has been in a relationship with Master Joe for 18 years.
Kim Debron is a collared slave and writer living in rural Australia. She has been in a relationship with Master Joe for 18 years.
Chastity Slave is a 海角换妻-based man in a polyamorous relationship with his master. This is a photo from his experience on a spanking bench at a medically-themed sex party.
3 of 5  — Chastity Slave is a 海角换妻-based man in a polyamorous relationship with his master. This is a photo from his experience on a spanking bench at a medically-themed sex party.
Chastity Slave is a 海角换妻-based man in a polyamorous relationship with his master. This is a photo from his experience on a spanking bench at a medically-themed sex party.
Chion Wolf
Chastity Slave is a 海角换妻-based man in a polyamorous relationship with his master. This is a photo from his experience on a spanking bench at a medically-themed sex party.
4 of 5  — Chastity Slave is a 海角换妻-based man in a polyamorous relationship with his master. This is a photo from his experience on a spanking bench at a medically-themed sex party.
Chastity Slave is a 海角换妻-based man in a polyamorous relationship with his master. This is a photo from his experience on a spanking bench at a medically-themed sex party.
Chion Wolf
A sign that welcomes visitors do the dungeon.
5 of 5  — A sign that welcomes visitors to the dungeon.
A sign that welcomes visitors to the dungeon.
Chion Wolf

Last time, we did an episode about dominants in the world of BDSM and kink, and now? It鈥檚 time for the submissives to take center-stage.

Learn the difference between 鈥渟ubmissive鈥� and 鈥渟lave鈥�, and four people鈥檚 interpretations of what it means to obey, serve, and play.

GUESTS: 

  • : Author of , and
  • : A collared slave and writer living in rural Australia. She has been in a relationship with Master Joe for 18 years. Her fiction books are Souls in Chains, and Broken Links
  • Chastity Slave: A 海角换妻-based man in a polyamorous relationship with his master
  • : A Maryland woman who identifies as a slave. She is the author of

Jessica Severin de Martinez, Khaleel Rahman, Meg Fitzgerald, Meg Dalton, and Catie Talarski contributed to this show, with help from our interns, Elizabeth Van Arnam and Melody Rivera.

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This show is part of our Audacious Love episodes playlist. To hear more episodes exploring connection, relationships and love, check out ctpublic.org/AudaciousLove.

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Jessica Severin de Martinez
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Khaleel Rahman
Khaleel Rahman is a producer for 'Audacious with Chion Wolf.'
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Chion Wolf is the host of Audacious with Chion Wolf on 海角换妻, spotlighting the stories of people whose experiences, professions, or conditions defy convention or are often misunderstood.
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